StackGen announces automation for cloud migrations

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Arshad: First of all, thank you for having me on the program, Bart. It's great to speak with you. Hi, my name is Arshad Sayyad, I'm a co-founder and chief business officer for StackGen. StackGen is a generative infrastructure company focused on autonomous cloud deployments, and we are based in Silicon Valley.

Bart: What do you want to share today?

Arshad: We are very excited to announce StackGen's automated cloud-to-cloud migration platform. StackGen streamlines the entire process of cloud discovery, mapping to the target cloud, a full automated migration of detailed attributes and variables, and finally a comprehensive security risk and compliance enforcement. We're able to deliver upwards of 80 percent automation in a cloud-to-cloud scenario based on our experiences with clients. Our platform is able to eliminate errors, reduce costs, and ensure compliance across all major cloud providers: AWS, Azure, GCP, OpenShift, and Civo. With comprehensive visibility into dependencies at each resource level, StackGen is helping enterprises move across cloud environments in a matter of hours and days, not months.

Bart: Now, what problem does the cloud-to-cloud migration platform solve?

Arshad: To understand this, let's first examine the context of the cloud world. Today, cloud-to-cloud migrations are increasing in volume as businesses seek optionality and fit-for-purpose target environments. With AI coming in, this trend is only accelerating. So far, cloud migrations have been tiring and manual in nature, as one has to navigate from one closed ecosystem of a cloud provider to another. Migrating between cloud providers can feel like a never-ending puzzle, involving manual resource discovery, complex scripting, and configuration mismatches that slow down teams dramatically and introduce significant risk.

In fact, one of our clients shared that it took them over nine months to migrate from one cloud provider to another, which was quite painful. Traditional approaches have led to prolonged timelines, higher costs, and security gaps, making cloud transitions more painful than they should be. With our migration platform, StackGen addresses that problem head-on.

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Arshad: Before StackGen, cloud migration was a slow and tedious process. Let me walk you through the typical approach. Imagine your team wants to migrate workloads from Azure to AWS or AWS to GCP, The process starts with manually discovering resources.

Most client environments have evolved over time through console-based operations, losing control of their cloud architecture's full breadth and depth at a granular resource level. This is the first barrier teams encounter. The second issue is mapping configurations and writing extensive scripts to recreate infrastructure in a new environment.

Clients typically build capabilities in their source environment but lack expertise in the target environment. They might engage external consulting firms or systems integrators, which makes the migration a complex program. Compliance and governance policies also need to be migrated and reapplied, traditionally done manually.

One client discovered significant gaps when manually recreating custom policies in the new environment, increasing risks of misconfigurations, over-provisioning of IAM policies, and missing resource attributes. Each migration step can take weeks or even months, delaying goals, frustrating customers, and draining engineering resources—all while maintaining day-to-day business operations.

Cloud provider solution architects typically require two to three months for discovery and assessment, another three to four months for manual mapping, and additional months for architecture setup, testing, and deployment. StackGen has automated and significantly compressed these timelines.

StackGen's Cloud-to-Cloud infrastructure platform automates the migration journey through four distinct components:

1. Cloud-to-Code: Scans and generates a comprehensive blueprint of the source cloud, extracting resource details, attributes, dependencies, and IAM policies.

2. Infra Composer: A dynamic visual canvas displaying source and target cloud architectures side-by-side, enabling no-code drag-and-drop resource management.

3. Policy Engine: Includes over 300 industry-standard security, risk, and compliance policies covering NIST, SOC 2, GDPR, CCPA, FedRAMP, and more. Users can also integrate custom policies and receive guidance on remediating violations.

4. Automated Deployment Lifecycle Management: Generates and deploys the new cloud environment into existing CI/CD pipelines or Git Actions workflows.

Recognizing that migrating across proprietary ecosystems isn't 100% perfect, StackGen provides optionality for handling the 5-15% anomalies between cloud providers.

Benefits include:

• Reducing migration cycle time from months to days or weeks

• Eliminating engineering time spent troubleshooting migration errors

• Built-in governance and compliance

• Complete traceability and auditability

• Comprehensive cloud architecture blueprint from day one

StackGen can serve as both a migration and ongoing cloud management platform.

Bart: Now, is StackGen's cloud-to-cloud migration platform open source and part of the CNCF landscape?

Arshad: Currently, we are not open source, but we are big fans of the CNCF landscape and are working on some ideas. Hopefully, we'll have more to share in the coming months.

Bart: StackGen's business model

Arshad: Today, we offer an enterprise version with all of our premium features for collaborating within and across teams. We have workflow built in, and everything is available to our clients for a flat licensing fee. In terms of hosting the platform, you can host it on-premise or as a single-tenant SaaS, if it's a dedicated SaaS or you want to do FedRAMP, or you can do a multi-tenant SaaS as well. At the same time, for individual developers, we also have a sandbox available where they can go to stackgen.com, build it for themselves, and play around with it. We typically have it limited to one user per organization. Currently, given that we are working on multiple migration programs—and this has been a big success for us—we're running a special program for this quarter for new clients. If anyone in your audience is interested, they can reach out to us.

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Arshad: From a competition standpoint, there are a few players that operate at the infrastructure layer like Matilda and Triance, but they really focus only on helping migrate or set up compute and storage. They do not operate at the application layer, which is the bulk of the effort that goes into cloud-to-cloud migration. We provide an end-to-end migration platform across the entire OSI stack. There are also other players like Ankra.io and AMPT that provide similar compute solutions.

Bart: What are some key differentiating points between StackGen and its competitors?

Arshad: First and foremost, we are the most comprehensive end-to-end automated cloud-to-cloud migration platform. Clients appreciate that we meet them where they are. What I mean is we support tools across the value chain: from client GitRepos like GitLab, Bitbucket, GitHub to CI/CD tools such as Argo, Spinnaker, Jenkins, and others. We have numerous integrations with ecosystem tools that most clients typically use, so clients do not have to change their operations when bringing us in.

The learning curve is very low, given our low-code visual canvas called the infracomposer for migration. DevOps, platform teams, and developers love it because they can instantly and intuitively get up and running, even without knowing the target cloud, in a matter of hours.

We eliminate manual scripting—you do not have to write or manage infrastructure code. We auto-generate best-class golden paths and standards. Additionally, we provide full resource discovery and dependency mapping, with built-in compliance and governance that ensures consistent security policies and regulatory compliance during migration. We eliminate drift and misconfigurations, which are critical gaps in many computing solutions.

Currently, we are able to bring down migration lead times by a significant factor, reducing migration time by almost 8 to 10x.

Bart: And now a couple of bonus questions: In terms of paradigm shifts, we've heard about multi-cloud for a bit, but a term that I'm coming across more often is cloud agnostic. To you, is that something that's coming up? Is it really a thing? What does it mean to you?

Arshad: Actually, that's a very good question. We are working with one of the largest software platform companies in the world, and they want to get into a cloud-agnostic approach. Let me explain where this is coming from. There are two or three use cases.

First, if you're a software company, more and more governments are requiring data residency in local regions. This particular client manages their software product across 16 regions and wants to deploy without manually recreating infrastructure for each region.

We have another client who needs to deploy across GCP, AWS, and Azure—sometimes on-premise, sometimes on cloud. Every time, they're manually managing a sprawl of instances. They want a cloud-agnostic solution: a way to deploy once, with the system handling deployment across different environments.

I think these are fundamental use cases. Enterprises are increasingly choosing multiple cloud options and want the ability to switch cloud providers and move to a cloud-agnostic model. We're not there today, but I see early signs.

For example, if you're using an Internal Developer Platform (IDP) like Backstage, which has a system component model, that could become an abstraction layer to help you be cloud-agnostic. We are also developing a framework or blueprint that can automatically deploy across two or three clouds based on their specific nuances.

Clients want to remove vendor lock-in due to regulatory pressures, business needs, regionalization, redundancy, data considerations, and disaster recovery. I believe we are probably a year or two away from a truly cloud-agnostic solution, but we'll get there soon.

Bart: Another question we've asked previously to different podcast guests is: What's easier to learn, multi-cloud or surfing? You wouldn't be surprised about how many people say surfing. With that in mind, if someone is going to take a multi-cloud approach, what is your number one piece of advice? If you can only do one thing or take one thing to heart, what would that be?

Arshad: Picking up on that thread, surfing is probably easier to learn, but multi-cloud is becoming easier for sure. StackGen got into the multi-cloud world because our clients took us there. We haven't spoken about many of our comprehensive capabilities and use cases.

In a multi-cloud world, what's going to be important is an ability to be harmonized in your architecture. The ability to keep architectures as harmonized as possible is key—though you'll never be 100% because business pressures and evolution will force you to adapt differently across regions and cloud providers. Cloud providers want to create proprietary moats, so some level of divergence is inevitable.

A concerted effort at the central team, platform team, and DevOps team levels to have an annual exercise harmonizing infrastructure across multi-cloud will become increasingly important. A platform like StackGen that helps anchor this and provides visibility into harmonization and divergence will be critical.

As release cycles increase thanks to Gen-AI, developer productivity is already up 50-70% with tools like Cursor. However, deployments remain slow and manual. That's going to change, with power shifting left to developers who will want to deploy multiple times a day.

In that world, if clouds are not harmonized, you'll face massive problems from multiple angles. You'll either have to lock down systems so tightly that developers are handcuffed, or remain vulnerable. And you don't want that because developers are your most premium commodity—you want to unleash their potential, not restrict it.

In the multi-cloud world, a harmonized fabric or model will be critical. Does that make sense?

Bart: Arshad, thank you so much for your thoughtful and well-developed answers today. I look forward to seeing what's happening with StackGen next. Take care, and we'll speak soon.

Arshad: Thanks a lot, Bart. I really appreciate it.