Tigera announces unified Kubernetes networking platform with AI and Istio

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Ratan: Hi, I'm Ratan Tipirneni. I work for Tigera as the CEO.

Bart: Now, what news are you bringing to our audience today?

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Ratan: We're announcing a couple of exciting things. The first thing is Calico AI. We have a lot of rich functionality inside Calico. It's a single unified platform that gives you everything you need for Kubernetes networking, network security, and observability. We're trying to unlock a lot of the value and power through AI, and that's going to be an umbrella term where we expect to innovate in that space over the next couple of years. We're starting with an ability to interact with our solution through an interactive chatbot, and we'll be adding more troubleshooting tools as part of Calico AI in the near future.

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Ratan: Kubernetes is great, but troubleshooting can be very complex because of the abstractions and moving pieces. We have all the data and tools required to troubleshoot. Calico AI will first enable troubleshooting, such as the configuration of network policies. If these aren't currently configured, you'll run into challenges. That's what Calico AI can help troubleshoot out of the gate.

Bart: And how does this announcement change the landscape compared to what existed before?

Ratan: We are announcing two things. The first is Calico AI, and the second is Istio, which we have decided to bundle as part of our solution. The reason is based on market trends and customer feedback: they want a single unified platform that provides everything they need for Kubernetes networking, network security, and observability. Additionally, they want a solution that works across any Kubernetes platform without being locked into a single platform.

As part of this initiative, we're bundling Istio, an open-source project that has become very popular over the last eight years and is now showing up in production environments. Many of our customers prefer a single solution where Istio is bundled and fully integrated with Calico.

Bart: For the open source community, is Calico AI, which you also mentioned as part of Istio, open source? Where does it fit in the CNCF landscape?

Ratan: The Istio bundling we're doing is part of Calico open source. It will be available along with the basic Calico functionality, including rich network and network security functionality, the Ingress Gateway, and Istio. All of this is part of our open source package. Calico AI will be available in our commercial products, Calico Cloud first, and then Calico Enterprise later on.

Bart: Can you break down Tigera's business model and pricing structure for teams evaluating this solution?

Ratan: We are heavily invested in our customer success, so we'd like to start modestly based on their footprint. Our commercial products, Calico Cloud and Calico Enterprise, are priced based on cores. If someone's starting with a very modest investment in Kubernetes, let's say 1,500 cores, the commercial solutions are priced per core. As they scale, they can increase their investment in the commercial products.

Bart: When people are exploring this space, which alternative solutions might they be considering alongside yours?

Ratan: Most of the time, people are using Calico open source. It's the most widely deployed solution in the world for Kubernetes networking and network security. The alternative is really Calico open source, or people try to do it themselves, or they start to use some of the native functionality in Kubernetes platforms. Obviously, there's a trade-off when they do that. They could get locked into these platforms, and that's what Calico solves for them. It really helps break that lock-in so that they're not tied and locked down with any single platform. This gives them a lot of price and negotiating leverage with all the platform vendors.

Bart: Looking ahead, what developments can our audience expect from Calico AI and Tigera?

Ratan: We've got some amazing customers. Some of the largest financial institutions in the world use our commercial and open source products. In terms of what to expect with Calico AI, we're in dialogue with them to understand their biggest operational challenges, specifically related to troubleshooting and other areas they're engaged in. We're going to systematically address these challenges and use that information to drive innovation. Our mission is to help make platform engineers' lives easier in running some of the largest platforms in the world. We've gathered rich information about the challenges they're struggling with. Our intent is to work through the list and leverage AI to solve and automate many of those challenges.

Bart: And how can interested listeners connect with Tigera to learn more or get started?

Ratan: Tigera.io is a good starting place. We have rich learning resources and run interactive workshops. It's the right place to connect with us. If you're using open source, we also manage a Calico open source user Slack channel. If you have any questions or need help, that's another place to connect with our engineers online.

Bart: One bonus question: We ask many people about their least favorite feature in Kubernetes, and over the last few years, many have mentioned network policy and network policy management. What are people getting wrong that makes it so challenging?

Ratan: There are two key challenges with network policies. First is the complexity of configuring and pushing them to production. Second is the risk: if you configure a network policy incorrectly, it can take down your production system. Platform engineers are hesitant because of these significant downside risks.

We've solved these problems in several ways. First, we made configuration dead simple. Second, we completely de-risked the process for platform engineers by introducing features that allow testing network policies in staging before production deployment.

The final challenge is the lack of collaboration capabilities. Kubernetes network policies don't easily support cross-team cooperation. We've solved this with a powerful mechanism that enables platform engineers, network engineers, SREs, and developers to collaborate, configure network policies, test them before production, and allow each team to work in their own lane while feeling empowered.